The problem is that they let the big wigs in, in the first place. A lot of football cubs have gone the same way, once they were "clubs" now they are PLCs. Simply that the money men saw their chance and pushed the original committee out regardless. The same thing happened to building societies that became banks and mutual insurance funds that became insurance companies. The members had n real choice and were offered a bribe that they could not refuse. The EU is like that, the people have no real influence. Panzer you say that you are "disabled" .. being moderately disabled was bearable here until less than 10 years ago then in came a new government who made disability an offence and used the disabled as a scapegoat. I give you five years before the same thing is happening in the ROI .. no running through Phoenix Park then .. if you can wave a finger or toe you can work .. no matter that there are no jobs anyway. That is what the new truth will be.