Wolfie

8 minutes ago, Snatch said:

So we'll keep it all liberal and wrap everything in cotton wool to keep you happy. You can carry on controlling what we are allowed to say and think.

 

I feel much safer already with Rick at the helm.

9 minutes ago, Snatch said:

I doubt it Wolfers,you'd be too lower class.

My lack of skill and petulant dishonesty would put her off me before this, Snatch.

2 minutes ago, camberwell gypsy said:

The hippocratic oath forbids me to divulge Quince's attendances at A&E. 

I'm sure the oath itself isn't quite as long as Quincy's attendance list.

1 hour ago, Mrs Roops said:

...and your lack of skill is inversely matched by your petulant dishonesty - next time you change the context of the question after its answered will result in your teeth being metaphorically kicked in. 

Sadly, if ever we meet, I suspect we'd argue terribly. That in itself would be a shame, because I'm quite sure you'd want to shag me after a few spritzers.

8 minutes ago, Gong Farmer said:

No but the built in radio plays 'Die Fahne Hoch'.

Well, it must have a little 'Trump ®' symbol on it somewhere then.

6 minutes ago, Gong Farmer said:

I bought a new extractor fan for kitchen in Germany yesterday. Just sayin'.

Did it have a reverse function which turned it into a domestic Nazi gas chamber?

1 hour ago, camberwell gypsy said:

The reason why A&E departments are so bad is the fact that many people do not need to be there. This isn't a new phenomenon. When I did my stint as an A&E nurse you would not believe the reasons people went there for. Some would be there for hours just because they had a cold or a headache. Many could be sorted if they went to a pharmacist. Ask any GP and they will tell you that about 70-80% of what they deal with is crap. It won't get better 

You worked there, so you'd know. Did a post-gay club Quincy ever turn up in A&E with a vacuum cleaner hose pipe shoved up his arse?

7 minutes ago, Mrs Roops said:

...absolutely. 

What a fascinating brain you have, Mrs Roops: able to recall and pinpoint such accurate data off the top of your head with consummate ease. Your skill is matched only by your modesty. 

21 minutes ago, Mrs Roops said:

Indeed, continuing to post easy-to-make and unsubstantiated suspicions is all the more surprising given you made yourself look that >< small when you last failed to front it out. Thanks for the welcome BTW.

There's no need to thank me, Mrs Roops; I should be thanking you for allowing yourself to be exposed as a plagiaristic twit.

Do you deny you didn't copy & paste part, if not all, of your spellbinding statistics lecture above?

45 minutes ago, camberwell gypsy said:

What you have to remember that take away the immigrants working in the NHS and the NHS would collapse*

*If you mentioned this in your post, I apologise for repetition. I didn't read all the post because it's to long for my attention span 

'...the NHS would collapse.'

I believe collapse and prolapse are similar manoeuvres, so perhaps Quincy is best placed to answer.

1 hour ago, Mrs Roops said:

The "immigrants are overloading the NHS" is an argument perpetuated by the likes of the EDL and news media including the Daily Express who seem to dish out a daily diet of immigrant horror stories to support the right wing op-eds concerning the NHS and the housing shortage. The left/lib oft-used retort is to cite racist attitudes and anti-capitalist rhetoric. The debate is not help by a lack of data available to support either side. Even the independent health think tank, The King's Fund, acknowledges there are no figures regarding health expenditure on immigrants though they do remark that 30% of NHS staff are immigrants and as a proportion of the UK population they are generally younger and healthier.

That the UK has an immigration issue is not in dispute, how that is managed in terms of who should come in to the UK is. That the NHS is overstretched and that there is a housing shortage is not in dispute. Both these issues have been predicted for the last three decades due to an aging population living longer with regards to the NHS and the breakdown of the nuclear family unit and again people living longer in their properties which has exacerbated housing demand. The issue with the NHS is that hospitals are spending more and more resources on looking after an elderly population who are best served by social care. For social care to effectively operate it needs a huge amount of money to make good the cut backs, then a whole much more for future needs which will increase further. Again, this has been predicted for decades but successive governments have been fearful that long term gain means short term pain and the resultant loss of a general election. No government has been prepared to grasp the nettle and fund a holistic solution. Interestingly, two weeks ago Mrs May dropped a gentle hint that Foreign Development Aid should be looked at. In other words the aid, which is set at 0.7% of GDP and equates to 21 billion pounds should be diverted which is more than enough to fund expected social care costs and would leave the NHS to run smoothly. The response to Mrs May's hint was muted to say the least which is interesting 'cos to reduce international aid would require legislation as the aid budget is guaranteed by statute. This would be another dilemma for Corbyn, he would be against the proposals but his back benchers, mindful that their constituents are full-on "charity begins at home" types might think otherwise. Interesting times.

While I welcome your response to debate, I suspect these words aren't entirely your own. It looks to me as though you've pulled them from somewhere and added a few of your own, to give the impression of an authentic prose.

My initial enthusiasm was quickly overcome by the uncontrollable desire to have a wank.

23 hours ago, Decimus said:

Actually, I would suggest that the reason that the NHS is in a critical state is due to the fact that 8.5 million British citizens are only in part time work, and a further 10.5 million are either unemployed and seeking work, or unemployed and not seeking work. This data is all there and available from the Office of National Statistics. I'd suggest to you that this large section of the population who are accessing the NHS, but not contributing to it adequately, are the largest drain on its resources, and not your bogeyman immigrant.

Unless you have some secret statistics up your sleeve that shows that there are nearly twenty million secret immigrants in this country accessing the NHS, and that every single one of them contribute only minimal N.I. payments to its upkeep, then you are talking absolute rubbish. The number of immigrants who do not contribute or who only do so minimally, is dwarfed by our own feckless "native" population. And no, I don't think that they should be cared for because they're "ours". Fuck 'em.

So how's this for left wing? If you can't afford to pay for treatment then you shouldn't get it, I don't care if you are white British, or black as the ace of spades and have just stepped off the plane from Africa. The NHS is broken, probably beyond repair, and I'm sick of contributing to a system that has been milked dry by scum who do not put anything into it and are then kept alive to drain it even further into their dotage. 

We need a new system, with private insurance and higher contributions. Anyone who can't afford it will then hopefully stop moaning that it's because of immigrants, and realise that it's actually because of their own feckless attitude to life. You get what you pay in.

 

If it's one thing the British do well, it's the NHS. As a model for a modern, Western society, I think it's brilliant, and while it is obviously suffering, I don't believe it's 'broken' and 'probably beyond repair'. Ask 100 people if they'd be willing to contribute more taxes for a better NHS and I'm pretty sure 90 would say yes. I know I would. How's that for right-wing?

Now, you can throw statistics at me until you're blue in the face, Decs. While I agree millions of unemployed (and those in part-time work) who aren't paying their way are putting a huge strain on the NHS, you must surely acknowledge the sheer numbers of people flooding into the UK is exacerbating the situation. For this reason, the quality of admission and service can no longer be sustained. (Of course, another factor is because of poor planning and distribution of funding, such as the inequality of wages among NHS staff.)

The fact of the matter in its simplest form is there are too many people for the service to cope with – and this includes the approximate 1.5% of the UK demographic that continues to grow annually because of unprecedented immigration, much of it illegal. Whether you like it or not, and this is not meant to stir unwarranted accusations of racism, continued migration to the UK is contributing to the demise of this country’s public services, and the current state of the NHS is a gilt-edged example.

I do however believe migrant workers most certainly benefit our public health services, though I also think we are poaching too many qualified doctors and nurses from Third-World countries who can ill-afford to lose their best people. Taking on too many migrant workers is to deprive developing countries of their most qualified staff, and to not provide much-needed jobs for British people.

Privatising the NHS would be an absolute tragedy, meaning those without money would suffer terribly. It would be taking a huge step backwards to the Victorian era. For me, the solution is higher contributions, less immigration. And yes – we should help our own first, especially those who are elderly and have contributed to our system all of their working lives. They should be given priority. In your own words, 'You get out what you pay in'.

1 minute ago, deebom said:

This is bollocks. The NHS is fucked because two Tory Govts have deliberately and willfully run it into the ground. Blairs Govt did fuck all to fix it, but pretended to by papering over the cracks.

 

It's policy, so nothing is going to work. They want private healthcare, it has a whole host of benefits to their vison of society.

 

Tory governments did indeed under-fund the NHS – (wrongly, in my opinion) promoting private healthcare in the process.

The current Tory leadership is however suffering the legacy of the Blair government's decision to open the immigration floodgates to the UK without proper healthcare planning and infrastructure to cope with demand. 

10 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Yawn, a proper immigration policy would not stop foreigners coming here whom would benefit the UK, such as doctors or dentists. The 300k arriving here every year, plus who knows how many illegals, plus health tourists all take looking after and paying for. If we didn't have so many cunts here we would not need so many NHS staff. The NHS is over subscribed.

It's a bit like trying to explain the alphabet to a five-year-old, Eddie.

55 minutes ago, Rick_B said:

If it wasn't for immigration many parts of the NHS would fall apart, none more so than dentistry. I can't think of a single dentist who does NHS work where I live who is native British, all they seem interested in is a nice lucrative private practice. My current dentist is Indian, fortunately she's very good and does mostly NHS work.

'If it wasn't for immigration many parts of the NHS would fall apart'.

No, Rick. It's because of immigration the NHS is falling apart. It’s overstretched and can no longer cope with sheer numbers. This I put down to 1) a population increasing tenfold because people are living longer, and 2) too many immigrants coming to the UK for free healthcare (even though a proportion has contributed to our system).
I believe the slow-kill is happening. For example, consultants who predominantly worked for the NHS are now inextricably linked to better-paid private healthcare, meaning those with money can access their essential services more easily.
Solution? Stop so many people coming into the UK, to give the service a chance to recover, and to serve needs of those who have fulfilled the system via taxes for most of their working lives.

34 minutes ago, Rick_B said:

If it wasn't for immigration many parts of the NHS would fall apart, none more so than dentistry. I can't think of a single dentist who does NHS work where I live who is native British, all they seem interested in is a nice lucrative private practice. My current dentist is Indian, fortunately she's very good and does mostly NHS work.

Does she trim her nasal hair so she can see your teeth?

3 minutes ago, Noakes said:

Rather than Aunty Mabels tit going though the mangle, shove your fucking retarded head through it. Fuck you and all the sailors who spunk in you.

I'm not surprised you're resorting to a bout of obnoxious cuntery; judging by your previous posts, you know of no other way to handle confrontation. As a 'newbie', therefore, it's good to sort out the wanting knuckle-draggers from those worthy of intelligent debate. 

1 minute ago, Noakes said:

There is no irony in telling a newbie fucktard to kill themselves. You really don't get it do you? Proof positive that you are a little bit short on  t'old grey matter, eyup like.

The voice of diplomacy and reason strikes again. You great big wad of useless, benign spunk.

8 minutes ago, nobgobbler said:

Why should we have to be the good cunts all the time? 

We shouldn't. The 'liberal' elite (BBC, The Guardian) has for decades championed immigration and pointed the finger at Britons (who have paid into the system) for being racist if they dare speak out against the left's migration demands.

Now, public services, the NHS being a good example, are suffering irreparably. Those in real need of our help ought to be vetted more carefully. Hopefully Brexit will be the vehicle that enables us to do this.

21 minutes ago, Noakes said:

I didn't bring race into it. Remain confused sap.

You fail to see the irony in your own comments. Are you sure you're not a northerner? It's just you seem to err a little on the thick side.

18 hours ago, Noakes said:

We have enough whinging Northern fucktards complaining about anything more sophisticated than black pudding, saying how great their northern piss water beer is and slagging off their betters from down South. Now go and get a nice piece of rope, look up how to make a "forbidden knot", do one and use it quickly on yourself to end your miserable existence you bottom feeding pig fucker.

You are wasting our time and yours, fucking kill yourself.

How confusing, Noakes. I've just read your comment above, which I then compared with one you posted earlier:

'Power to the people! One world, one humanity. You have a basket full of puppies, they all look different but you still call them dogs. Humans ALL look different to each other but they are all human beings, race should be irrelevant in the 21st century. Racism is a product of ignorance and hatred.'

27 minutes ago, Quincy Cockfingers said:

It's great that these idiots have kept on topic, what I'm saying is- they keep returning to this orphans thing obsessively. Anyway, regardless of whether or not it's the "best" thing to help foreign brats or not, in the grand U.K. economic picture, with all the sly shit and huge cunts screwing us, the primary "cunt" these idiots decide to cunt is some bedraggled waifs. The real "cunt" here isn't that some very small GDP is being applied altruistically to non U.K. Nationals, that they're robbing us, it's that the powers that be are not sorting our own waifs out, but are sorting out big yank companies with no tax, per earlier example. It's not as if there's not enough to go around.

Anyway, we are meant to be the good cunts. It's fine by me- especially if the filthy, theiving, unwashed cunts are contained solely in England. Fuck off.

lol

I'd expect nothing less from such an educated prose, Quincy. Have you wanked into your boyfriend's skidmarked briefs this morning to help relieve your tension?

21 hours ago, Noakes said:

Power to the people!

One world, one humanity.

You have a basket full of puppies, they all look different but you still call them dogs. Humans ALL look different to each other but they are all human beings, race should be irrelevant in the 21st century. Racism is a product of ignorance and hatred.

End hatred from all sides, accept that any human can be racist, not just white anglo saxons and maybe we could all sort the fucking world out together without petty division caused by place of birth, colour of skin or whether you think there is a sky fairy or not.

Now fuck off I am busy.

Complete, utter cockrot.

1 hour ago, Mrs Roops said:

I gave you a like and as the late Luke Swarm once commented, "a like from Mrs Roops is rarer than hen's teeth".

Modesty, personified.

1 hour ago, Decimus said:

I'm out of likes, I'm afraid.

Why were you never this good when we used to have our friendly little seven page debates? If I'm being honest, I feel more than a little bit hurt and cheapened by the revelation that you weren't giving me your all.

Do you usually rely on women to absorb blows on your behalf before stepping in, Decs?