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[Decimus]

18 minutes ago, The Beast said:

You are spouting the usual leftist shite that seeks to deconstruct the English. 

I don't agree with the existence of the so called Anglosphere countries. They have fuck all do with Europeans. Rich merchants profited, whilst the natives of these countries and the peasants of England took the consequences and still do today, see your deconstruction as example of the white guilt and critical race theory grift direct from the David Goldberg school. 

The Polynesian people of the South Pacific Islands we refer to as New Zealand have been there at least 800 years. The UN declaration on the rights of indigenous peoples rightly deems the Polynesian people as the indigenous people of these Islands, The Anglo-Saxons, a linage of people formed from various invaders, have been the settled people of some of these islands for over 1000 years. They are indigenous people.

This giant social engineering experiment in the UK plc and Western Europe is a disaster. The numbers of migrants are too large. It has been done on purpose since the end of WW2. Nobody asked for it and the majority would turn this country back to a homogeneous population in a heart beat if they could. In reality, the opposite is the destination. Views akin to mine are deemed borderline criminal under the equality act 2010 and the race and religious hatred act 2006. We have been buggered badly.

So when I see a load of kneeling arseholes, in the name of an Astro turfed BLM movement, from the same Goldberg school, it's mostly because of liberal retards complicit in their own racial, ethnic and cultural destruction. It will only end until a load of so called bigots stand up against this subversion.

 

 

 

Whilst I don't disagree with a lot of what you've said, I've always found the term indigenous a bit silly. How long does it take a settled population to be deemed 'indigenous'? If the definition is subjective, you could argue that the English are all immigrants and that the only true indigenous people on this island are the Welsh. Taking it a step further, the Welsh could in turn be considered non-indigenous in comparison to the original pre-Celtic, neolithic settlers of Britain. And so on etc...

It boils down to squatters rights at the end of the day, and if there is an arbitrary length of time that you would use in order to consider a population indigenous, then by your own logic black people who came to this country in the 1950s will be considered native sometime around the 2750s.

I don't look at it in terms of race, it's the clash of cultures that have caused the issues we currently face, you don't need to have a racially homogeneous population to have a decent society, just a monocultural one.

 

 

[Old Chap Raasclaat]

3 minutes ago, The Beast said:

You are spouting the usual leftist shite that seeks to deconstruct the English. 

I don't agree with the existence of the so called Anglosphere countries. They have fuck all do with Europeans. Rich merchants profited, whilst the natives of these countries and the peasants of England took the consequences and still do today, see your deconstruction as example of the white guilt and critical race theory grift direct from the David Goldberg school. 

The Polynesian people of the South Pacific Islands we refer to as New Zealand have been there at least 800 years. The UN declaration on the rights of indigenous peoples rightly deems the Polynesian people as the indigenous people of these Islands, The Anglo-Saxons, a linage of people formed from various invaders, have been the settled people of some of these islands for over 1000 years. They are indigenous people.

This giant social engineering experiment in the UK plc and Western Europe is a disaster. The numbers of migrants are too large. It has been done on purpose since the end of WW2. Nobody asked for it and the majority would turn this country back to a homogeneous population in a heart beat if they could. In reality, the opposite is the destination. Views akin to mine are deemed borderline criminal under the equality act 2010 and the race and religious hatred act 2006. We have been buggered badly.

So when I see a load of kneeling arseholes, in the name of an Astro turfed BLM movement, from the same Goldberg school, it's mostly because of liberal retards complicit in their own racial, ethnic and cultural destruction. It will only end until a load of so called bigots stand up against this subversion.

 

 

 

Firstly I'm a not trying to deconstruct the English as you put it, far from it, I am proud of my English (not Irish, Welsh or Scottish) heritage and I'm not spouting lefty Bollocks either, merely facts. The Anglo Saxons are not the indigenous people of the these islands either, you'll find the Britons and various Celtic tribes are 'The' Indigenous people's of these lands we call Britain, and in fact the Saxons called the indigenous peoples foreigners (Welsh). I agree there is and has been too much immigration and if I was in charge I'd have stopped it or limited it in the 80s, but a lot of post WW2 immigration was 'asked for' due to so many dying in said war. I don't know what planet you live on but believe me in 150 years time (or less) there will be no 'Pure homogeneous' nations, whether that's a good or a bad thing is up to each individual, but it's happening whether you, me or anyone likes it or not. I would also argue that the past of most colonial nations has played a a big part in immigration die to language and culture. Out of interest what's your pure white background then and if in charge what would be your requirement to represent England? Do you have any Celtic ancestors, English one's? My point is the pureness of any nation becomes blurred over time, as far as I know the Icelandic nation is the purest in terms of it's gene pool.

Most pure white English have a mixture of English, Celtic and thats obviously fine with you (even though they aren't pure English by your own standards) it's when another race is mixed in, that's when you have an issue. Am I right? 

Lastly, what do you make of white Europeans doing 'The Haka'?

[Old Chap Raasclaat]

4 minutes ago, Decimus said:

Whilst I don't disagree with a lot of what you've said, I've always found the term indigenous a bit silly. How long does it take a settled population to be deemed 'indigenous'? If the definition is subjective, you could argue that the English are all immigrants and that the only true indigenous people on this island are the Welsh. Taking it a step further, the Welsh could in turn be considered non-indigenous in comparison to the original pre-Celtic, neolithic settlers of Britain. And so on etc...

It boils down to squatters rights at the end of the day, and if there is an arbitrary length of time that you would use in order to consider a population indigenous, then by your own logic black people who came to this country in the 1950s will be considered native sometime around the 2750s.

I don't look at it in terms of race, it's the clash of cultures that have caused the issues we currently face, you don't need to have a racially homogeneous population to have a decent society, just a monocultural one.

 

 

Well said Decimus, his argument is totally flawed and history shows that. It's simply the culture and colour he has an issue with and that's fine by me, it's when he starts trying to mention other 'indigenous' nations to back up his argument is when I have to call out the bullshit. 

[Neil]

We're not far off from fielding a team that are all black, still be fucking useless at penalties though, I wonder if they'll still sing "Come On You Whites" ?

[Old Chap Raasclaat]

1 minute ago, Neil said:

We're not far off from fielding a team that are all black, still be fucking useless at penalties though, I wonder if they'll still sing "Come On You Whites" ?

Shut up Neil, Arsenal have been fielding a Black team for 20 years. Didn't stop you cheering them on did it? You hypocritical, glory hunting cunt. Lol

[Old Chap Raasclaat]

48 minutes ago, The Beast said:

This giant social engineering experiment in the UK plc and Western Europe is a disaster. The numbers of migrants are too large. It has been done on purpose since the end of WW2. Nobody asked for it and the majority would turn this country back to a homogeneous population in a heart beat if they could.

Experiment? Really? Britain needed migrants after WW2, they came from all commonwealth countries and it was a logical fix to rebuild Britain. It's easy to look back and say 'It was done on purpose' to piss people like you off but your totally wrong in my opinion. Immigration is totally out of hand and the dinghy cunts are also a problem,  however I'm wondering what the desired outcome of this experiment you mention is? A race war? To get rid of the indigenous peoples? To what end, please explain. 

[Neil]

9 minutes ago, Old Chap Raasclaat said:

Shut up Neil, Arsenal have been fielding a Black team for 20 years. Didn't stop you cheering them on did it? You hypocritical, glory hunting cunt. Lol

I do cheer the Arsenal ladies on, "Come on you girls" but none of them have let me yet.

[Old Chap Raasclaat]

9 minutes ago, Neil said:

I do cheer the Arsenal ladies on, "Come on you girls" but none of them have let me yet.

I estimate at 97% of the female player drink from the furry cup. What a waste eh? They clearly haven't met the right man like me or your good self Neil. 

[The Beast]

1 hour ago, Old Chap Raasclaat said:

Well said Decimus, his argument is totally flawed and history shows that. It's simply the culture and colour he has an issue with and that's fine by me, it's when he starts trying to mention other 'indigenous' nations to back up his argument is when I have to call out the bullshit. 

 

45 minutes ago, Old Chap Raasclaat said:

Experiment? Really? Britain needed migrants after WW2, they came from all commonwealth countries and it was a logical fix to rebuild Britain. It's easy to look back and say 'It was done on purpose' to piss people like you off but your totally wrong in my opinion. Immigration is totally out of hand and the dinghy cunts are also a problem,  however I'm wondering what the desired outcome of this experiment you mention is? A race war? To get rid of the indigenous peoples? To what end, please explain. 

 

1 hour ago, Old Chap Raasclaat said:

Firstly I'm a not trying to deconstruct the English as you put it, far from it, I am proud of my English (not Irish, Welsh or Scottish) heritage and I'm not spouting lefty Bollocks either, merely facts. The Anglo Saxons are not the indigenous people of the these islands either, you'll find the Britons and various Celtic tribes are 'The' Indigenous people's of these lands we call Britain, and in fact the Saxons called the indigenous peoples foreigners (Welsh). I agree there is and has been too much immigration and if I was in charge I'd have stopped it or limited it in the 80s, but a lot of post WW2 immigration was 'asked for' due to so many dying in said war. I don't know what planet you live on but believe me in 150 years time (or less) there will be no 'Pure homogeneous' nations, whether that's a good or a bad thing is up to each individual, but it's happening whether you, me or anyone likes it or not. I would also argue that the past of most colonial nations has played a a big part in immigration die to language and culture. Out of interest what's your pure white background then and if in charge what would be your requirement to represent England? Do you have any Celtic ancestors, English one's? My point is the pureness of any nation becomes blurred over time, as far as I know the Icelandic nation is the purest in terms of it's gene pool.

Most pure white English have a mixture of English, Celtic and thats obviously fine with you (even though they aren't pure English by your own standards) it's when another race is mixed in, that's when you have an issue. Am I right? 

Lastly, what do you make of white Europeans doing 'The Haka'?

I didn't say the Anglo Saxons were the only indigenous people. I thought you may have had the sense to pick up on that as I said some of these Islands.

The myth that black and brown people built Britain or rebuilt Britain is one of the most egregious parts of the revisionist history that is used to deconstruct the English. The people off the Empire Windrush were not invited. The boat started its voyage in South America. It advertised cheap tickets to London in the Caribbean because the boat was very much under capacity. When the boat docked in London, the authorities had no idea what to do with many of the people who were on board.

The Barbados government wrote to London Transport asking if it needed people because of high unemployment and unrest among males on the Island. Trinidad and Tobago followed suit.

Most of what you see built in this country up to the 1990's was built by the Irish, particularly most of our railway network which was built in the Victorian era. Irish navvies paid a huge cost in lost lives building it.

 

If Europeans want to do the haka, they look as stupid as the knee benders.

 

[Old Chap Raasclaat]

11 minutes ago, The Beast said:

 

 

I didn't say the Anglo Saxons were the only indigenous people. I thought you may have had the sense to pick up on that as I said some of these Islands.

The myth that black and brown people built Britain or rebuilt Britain is one of the most egregious parts of the revisionist history that is used to deconstruct the English. The people off the Empire Windrush were not invited. The boat started its voyage in South America. It advertised cheap tickets to London in the Caribbean because the boat was very much under capacity. When the boat docked in London, the authorities had no idea what to do with many of the people who were on board.

The Barbados government wrote to London Transport asking if it needed people because of high unemployment and unrest among males on the Island. Trinidad and Tobago followed suit.

Most of what you see built in this country up to the 1990's was built by the Irish, particularly most of our railway network which was built in the Victorian era. Irish navvies paid a huge cost in lost lives building it.

 

If Europeans want to do the haka, they look as stupid as the knee benders.

 

There you go again, altering what I've said to suit your own agenda. I didn't say Black, brown, white or whatever built or rebuilt Britain at all, I said they were needed to help rebuild Britain, meaning the infrastructure, public transport and so on. Are you now claiming not a single Caribbean person was asked to come here? I've never said the Irish didn't play a massive role in building Britain either, I wouldn't be so arrogant to make such a claim. You seem to have that kind of arrogance though, you're claims above confirm that. 

[Old Chap Raasclaat]

1 hour ago, Old Chap Raasclaat said:

Experiment? Really? Britain needed migrants after WW2, they came from all commonwealth countries and it was a logical fix to rebuild Britain. It's easy to look back and say 'It was done on purpose' to piss people like you off but your totally wrong in my opinion. Immigration is totally out of hand and the dinghy cunts are also a problem,  however I'm wondering what the desired outcome of this experiment you mention is? A race war? To get rid of the indigenous peoples? To what end, please explain. 

@The Beast?

[The Beast]

1 hour ago, Decimus said:

Whilst I don't disagree with a lot of what you've said, I've always found the term indigenous a bit silly. How long does it take a settled population to be deemed 'indigenous'? If the definition is subjective, you could argue that the English are all immigrants and that the only true indigenous people on this island are the Welsh. Taking it a step further, the Welsh could in turn be considered non-indigenous in comparison to the original pre-Celtic, neolithic settlers of Britain. And so on etc...

It boils down to squatters rights at the end of the day, and if there is an arbitrary length of time that you would use in order to consider a population indigenous, then by your own logic black people who came to this country in the 1950s will be considered native sometime around the 2750s.

I don't look at it in terms of race, it's the clash of cultures that have caused the issues we currently face, you don't need to have a racially homogeneous population to have a decent society, just a monocultural one.

 

 

How the fuck will we ever have a monoculture? Do you really think Mohammed and his ilk are going to bin Islam? 

Whilst many people have come here and assimilated, there is no incentives left for them to do so. The legislation which I mentioned only encourages segregation, the race card and parallel communities. These laws aren't designed for a faux fucking plastic like you or me, they are designed to crush us, insidiously without any external maintenance and wholly by self policing.

[The Beast]

2 minutes ago, Old Chap Raasclaat said:

@The Beast?

This country was on its arse after WW2. Bankrupt, in hock to the Americans and Zionism. It did things on the cheap, as it has done so since. The greed at the top, which is now so pernicious and overt, never wanted to invest in its own people who may cause industrial disputes over wages and working conditions. Instead cheap overseas labour, whose residency is dependent on their employment, was the most beneficial way for a minority at the top milking the profits. Power is always held by highly organised minorities and never a populist mass movement.

[Old Chap Raasclaat]

2 minutes ago, The Beast said:

Power is always held by highly organised minorities and never a populist mass movement

On that I agree with you, however in my opinion that's always been the way in these lands since the Domesday book and before. However, we are clearly never going to agree on England, it's history and it's sporting representatives. 

It's the season of goodwill and all that shit, so I'll be sending you some Jerk Ham, Curry Goat (cooked by Winston, who was on the Windrush) and a nice bottle of Appleton 21year Jamaica rum. How about that then?

[The Beast]

5 minutes ago, Old Chap Raasclaat said:

On that I agree with you, however in my opinion that's always been the way in these lands since the Domesday book and before. However, we are clearly never going to agree on England, it's history and it's sporting representatives. 

It's the season of goodwill and all that shit, so I'll be sending you some Jerk Ham, Curry Goat (cooked by Winston, who was on the Windrush) and a nice bottle of Appleton 21year Jamaica rum. How about that then?

I have worked for the NHS for thirty plus fucking years, so I generally take as I find. My aggro is not with people from other counties, but the useless cunts that have turned this country into a nut house whilst ransacking it.

The discussion I have had here with you, I could have it with many of the overseas people I currently work with. If I tried to have it with a white liberal, I might as well pack up my shit and voluntarily leave the job.

I had some 90% white rum from a Trinidadian colleague some years back. Fucking vicious.

[Decimus]

49 minutes ago, The Beast said:

 

 

Fucking Hell, Proper, not this cunt. S(h)imon is about as biased as they come, you only have to look at his channel video list to see that he is obsessed with black people to a point of mania. 

Another point of contention is that he's shilling for The Tribe. He pedals himself as an historian who "debunks" false facts, but is always curiously silent when it comes to the actions of our desert friends, despite being constantly challenged on it.

Yes, I know all about Mr. Webb and even taking the pro-Israeli leanings out of the equation, he's a nasty piece of work hiding behind the mild-mannered facade of a supposed academic.

[The Beast]

16 minutes ago, Decimus said:

Fucking Hell, Proper, not this cunt. S(h)imon is about as biased as they come, you only have to look at his channel video list to see that he is obsessed with black people to a point of mania. 

Another point of contention is that he's shilling for The Tribe. He pedals himself as an historian who "debunks" false facts, but is always curiously silent when it comes to the actions of our desert friends, despite being constantly challenged on it.

Yes, I know all about Mr. Webb and even taking the pro-Israeli leanings out of the equation, he's a nasty piece of work hiding behind the mild-mannered facade of a supposed academic.

I know. A certain Mr K West aka Ye would put him straight on a few things.

[Old Chap Raasclaat]

2 hours ago, Decimus said:

Fucking Hell, Proper, not this cunt. S(h)imon is about as biased as they come, you only have to look at his channel video list to see that he is obsessed with black people to a point of mania. 

Another point of contention is that he's shilling for The Tribe. He pedals himself as an historian who "debunks" false facts, but is always curiously silent when it comes to the actions of our desert friends, despite being constantly challenged on it.

Yes, I know all about Mr. Webb and even taking the pro-Israeli leanings out of the equation, he's a nasty piece of work hiding behind the mild-mannered facade of a supposed academic.

What a creepy, racist, bitter old fucker this cunt is. Going on about the Barbados government and the Jamaican government, the daft cunt doesn't seem to realise the the Bajan and Jamaican governments were technically the British government pre independence anyways. He's not you is he @The Beast Lol. 

[The Beast]

4 minutes ago, Old Chap Raasclaat said:

What a creepy, racist, bitter old fucker this cunt is. Going on about the Barbados government and the Jamaican government, the daft cunt doesn't seem to realise the the Bajan and Jamaican governments were technically the British government pre independence anyways. He's not you is he @The Beast Lol. 

Fucking turn it in.

[Witheredscrote]

3 hours ago, The Beast said:

 

I had some 90% white rum from a Trinidadian colleague some years back. Fucking vicious.

So would I be if you nicked my drink.

[King Billy]

10 hours ago, Old Chap Raasclaat said:

You're obviously 100% pure English, descended from Beowulf himself I imagine. Anyways, considering you've not addressed any of the questions I've asked you it makes perfect sense for you to go on about other 'pure' teams like Japan, who by the way have had many non 'Pure' Japanese representating Japan, Musashi Suzuki for example. Also applying your 'pure race' logic bollocks, I suppose you're equally as irritated by Australia, New Zealand and South Africa having Europeans playing for them, surely it should be the indigenous peoples only? I'd argue the reason why is they're all there playing is on merit, because they are the best available, the same goes for England. Finally, as it's about race and not necessarily being actually English, you'd be happy with a load of Polish and let's say Spanish players like Adam Lallana playing for England? I get the fact you don't like seeing a non 'pure white' person playing for England but you're reasoning is awful.  

Raas. Please don’t take this the wrong way as I’ve grown to like you and your take on most topics which get to be discussed on here. But unless I’m completely barking up the wrong tree on this particular one, ‘Footballs never coming home’ because 21st century England is rapidly becoming home to every stinking cunt on the planet who can make his way to Calais and climb into a dinghy alongside several identical stinking cunts. 
England/Great Britain/the U.K. or whatever doesn’t actually exist anymore thanks to decades of cowards and traitors masquerading as our elected representatives.

[Old Chap Raasclaat]

4 minutes ago, King Billy said:

Raas. Please don’t take this the wrong way as I’ve grown to like you and your take on most topics which get to be discussed on here. But unless I’m completely barking up the wrong tree on this particular one, ‘Footballs never coming home’ because 21st century England is rapidly becoming home to every stinking cunt on the planet who can make his way to Calais and climb into a dinghy alongside several identical stinking cunts. 
England/Great Britain/the U.K. or whatever doesn’t actually exist anymore thanks to decades of cowards and traitors masquerading as our elected representatives.

Not taken the wrong way at all KB, I have no time for the dinghy cunts at all and would ship them straight back if in charge. The conversation was based on eligibility to play for England, I agree, the country is going down the shitter but what can really/realistically be done? Labour and the the Tories are both useless when it comes to immigration.

[King Billy]

8 hours ago, Old Chap Raasclaat said:

I've never said the Irish didn't play a massive role in building Britain either, I wouldn't be so arrogant to make such a claim

And there lies the problem. It’s no wonder the U.K. is falling to fucking bits before our eyes. Which Whitehall genius came up with the plan to let the Irish build Britain? Surely the ‘unsinkable’ Titanic’s minor  teething problems would have raised a few eyebrows?

[Last Cunt Standing]

5 minutes ago, King Billy said:

And there lies the problem. It’s no wonder the U.K. is falling to fucking bits before our eyes. Which Whitehall genius came up with the plan to let the Irish build Britain? Surely the ‘unsinkable’ Titanic’s minor  teething problems would have raised a few eyebrows?

The Titanic was built in Belfast, yet you seem to be labelling those workers Irish. Is your bowler hat on too tight, Bill?

[King Billy]

7 minutes ago, Old Chap Raasclaat said:

Labour and the the Tories are both useless when it comes to immigration.

Labour and the Tories are nowadays just 2 festering boils on the same shit encrusted arsehole. Both subservient to their globalist masters and devoid of any loyalty to the moronic cunts who religiously trek down to the polling station  every 4 or 5 years, and scribble X for whichever of the 2 so called ‘democratic choices’ they stupidly believe will be the answer to the incumbent bunch of verminous wankers they stupidly put their trust in last time.