Witheredscrote Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, Eric Cuntman said: It's this sort of talk that makes the darkies so uppity. Yes, and it's your sort of remark that rubs salt in the wound (thankfully) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 43 minutes ago, Old Chap Raasclaat said: That's whats needed and also energy supply, these two need renationalising as they have been allowed to take the piss for far too long.m, constant price rises whilst service quality diminishes. Why do the Tories seem to want to sell everything? We don't really manufacture things anymore and and anything including the NHS will soon be in the sale window. The country is going down the shitter. The only service to have been radically improved by privatisation is telecoms, which was a risible farce while nationalised. I can't think of anything else that has benefited from privatisation other than the bank balances of the city wide boys. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Cunt Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, scotty said: The only service to have been radically improved by privatisation is telecoms, which was a risible farce while nationalised. I can't think of anything else that has benefited from privatisation other than the bank balances of the city wide boys. And every complicit politician. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, White Cunt said: And every complicit politician. I hope you're not implying corruption in our political system. 😡😡😡😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Cunt Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, scotty said: I hope you're not implying corruption in our political system. 😡😡😡😡 Not if you are looking at the problem from space 🌎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Chap Raasclaat Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 47 minutes ago, scotty said: The only service to have been radically improved by privatisation is telecoms, which was a risible farce while nationalised. I can't think of anything else that has benefited from privatisation other than the bank balances of the city wide boys. All the costs, backhanders etc get passed on to the customer and the government back these bastards up and allow them to keep raising energy costs. How can it be cheaper to drive from say Bristol to London than get the train? Things have become so rotten nobody wants to clean up the mess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubby Pecker Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Fatty Junior said: Decs, still talking bollocks I see Fuck off you jug eared cunt. Fancy winkling out a new beast on the corner? Thick wanker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 51 minutes ago, Old Chap Raasclaat said: How can it be cheaper to drive from say Bristol to London than get the train? Exactly. Two people can drive to London and back from Southampton for about 20 quid. It costs 68 for the same two by train, utterly ridiculous. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Billy Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 5 hours ago, Hammer of Cunts said: Most people just want a fair crack of the whip. Most black people? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 17 hours ago, scotty said: Exactly. Two people can drive to London and back from Southampton for about 20 quid. It costs 68 for the same two by train, utterly ridiculous. All very good and logical to reduce the fares. The problem is that plenty of people are willing to pay the current fares .. why charge £20 when the punters are willing to pay £70. I many places the loading are back close to pre covid levels and the trains are full to the brim with people standing in the corridors. The first class punters are often and others who can get a seat are often paying £250 a day to travel 5 days a week for 150 mile journeys but what they can do is get their laptops out and set to work and that is what they do. Indeed 30 years ago I knew people who travelled from Carlisle to London and back Monday to Friday. During the four hour journey out they would have their breakfast and then get the paperwork out, once at London around 10AM they would go to their offices and then catch a train around 4pm back to Carlisle do some more office work and have their dinner on the train and get back to Carlisle around 8PM. Lower the fares and you would have to build new trains to carry the new punters on cheap tickets and in many places there is no capacity for more longer or more trains. You then decide to increase capacity by building new railways like HS2 and the middle Englanders and environmentalists come out to protest. We even need extra capacity to get people to the wild west but Salisbury to Exeter line is now most single track and to upgrade it to double track would cost around £100million and then you would need some extra trains. We also need the line from Okehampton to Plymouth reinstating to add capacity and resilience and for reliable freight traffic to Plymouth but that would cost around £700million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Billy Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 6 hours ago, Clavo said: All very good and logical to reduce the fares. The problem is that plenty of people are willing to pay the current fares .. why charge £20 when the punters are willing to pay £70. I many places the loading are back close to pre covid levels and the trains are full to the brim with people standing in the corridors. The first class punters are often and others who can get a seat are often paying £250 a day to travel 5 days a week for 150 mile journeys but what they can do is get their laptops out and set to work and that is what they do. Indeed 30 years ago I knew people who travelled from Carlisle to London and back Monday to Friday. During the four hour journey out they would have their breakfast and then get the paperwork out, once at London around 10AM they would go to their offices and then catch a train around 4pm back to Carlisle do some more office work and have their dinner on the train and get back to Carlisle around 8PM. Lower the fares and you would have to build new trains to carry the new punters on cheap tickets and in many places there is no capacity for more longer or more trains. You then decide to increase capacity by building new railways like HS2 and the middle Englanders and environmentalists come out to protest. We even need extra capacity to get people to the wild west but Salisbury to Exeter line is now most single track and to upgrade it to double track would cost around £100million and then you would need some extra trains. We also need the line from Okehampton to Plymouth reinstating to add capacity and resilience and for reliable freight traffic to Plymouth but that would cost around £700million. Give it a rest for fuck sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decimus Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 7 hours ago, Clavo said: All very good and logical to reduce the fares. The problem is that plenty of people are willing to pay the current fares .. Abject bollocks. Passengers aren't willing to pay inflated prices, they have no choice because there's no regulation or competition. With the WFH revolution I'm hoping that the rail companies will suffer now they haven't got a monopoly on employees who have to shuttle in to big cities. Rail travel is an anachronistic throwback to the 19th century. Without it being a socialised, cheap method of transport, it should go the way of the dinosaurs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, Decimus said: Abject bollocks. Passengers aren't willing to pay inflated prices, they have no choice because there's no regulation or competition. With the WFH revolution I'm hoping that the rail companies will suffer now they haven't got a monopoly on employees who have to shuttle in to big cities. Rail travel is an anachronistic throwback to the 19th century. Without it being a socialised, cheap method of transport, it should go the way of the dinosaurs. They are willing because they are not willing to use the alternatives. It is how the market works, they voted for what they got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camberwell gypsy Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 7 hours ago, Clavo said: All very good and logical to reduce the fares. The problem is that plenty of people are willing to pay the current fares .. why charge £20 when the punters are willing to pay £70. I many places the loading are back close to pre covid levels and the trains are full to the brim with people standing in the corridors. The first class punters are often and others who can get a seat are often paying £250 a day to travel 5 days a week for 150 mile journeys but what they can do is get their laptops out and set to work and that is what they do. Indeed 30 years ago I knew people who travelled from Carlisle to London and back Monday to Friday. During the four hour journey out they would have their breakfast and then get the paperwork out, once at London around 10AM they would go to their offices and then catch a train around 4pm back to Carlisle do some more office work and have their dinner on the train and get back to Carlisle around 8PM. Lower the fares and you would have to build new trains to carry the new punters on cheap tickets and in many places there is no capacity for more longer or more trains. You then decide to increase capacity by building new railways like HS2 and the middle Englanders and environmentalists come out to protest. We even need extra capacity to get people to the wild west but Salisbury to Exeter line is now most single track and to upgrade it to double track would cost around £100million and then you would need some extra trains. We also need the line from Okehampton to Plymouth reinstating to add capacity and resilience and for reliable freight traffic to Plymouth but that would cost around £700million. Are they willing though? Problem is is that they don't have any choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 17 minutes ago, camberwell gypsy said: Are they willing though? Problem is is that they don't have any choice. Correct and that is what makes them willing. Twenty years ago when Beardie's Virgin owned West Coast punter were paying £170 a day for a return from Manchester to London and like now the trains were full and at that time the trains were actually 25 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paulie Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 On 02/10/2021 at 13:52, Clavo said: All very good and logical to reduce the fares. The problem is that plenty of people are willing to pay the current fares .. why charge £20 when the punters are willing to pay £70. I many places the loading are back close to pre covid levels and the trains are full to the brim with people standing in the corridors. The first class punters are often and others who can get a seat are often paying £250 a day to travel 5 days a week for 150 mile journeys but what they can do is get their laptops out and set to work and that is what they do. Indeed 30 years ago I knew people who travelled from Carlisle to London and back Monday to Friday. During the four hour journey out they would have their breakfast and then get the paperwork out, once at London around 10AM they would go to their offices and then catch a train around 4pm back to Carlisle do some more office work and have their dinner on the train and get back to Carlisle around 8PM. Lower the fares and you would have to build new trains to carry the new punters on cheap tickets and in many places there is no capacity for more longer or more trains. You then decide to increase capacity by building new railways like HS2 and the middle Englanders and environmentalists come out to protest. We even need extra capacity to get people to the wild west but Salisbury to Exeter line is now most single track and to upgrade it to double track would cost around £100million and then you would need some extra trains. We also need the line from Okehampton to Plymouth reinstating to add capacity and resilience and for reliable freight traffic to Plymouth but that would cost around £700million. I aint reading all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 5 hours ago, Paulie said: I aint reading all that. Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paulie Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 4 hours ago, Clavo said: Good. I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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